Most Malaysians have watch the depiction of Hang Tuah in Puteri Gunung Ledang with M. Nasir depicting the legend. Watching this legend makes me wonder all about Hang Tuah’s Origin
Some interesting facts have been brought to open my mind in the recent study of Hang Tuah. After having read a few articles and the history of Malaysia being brought into text books for history lessons, I have browsed for more articles to be studied, be it on the web or in books.
The Mausoleum of Hang Tuah
The History of Hang Tuah’s Origin
In recent years while I was still schooling, Hang Tuah was taught in Sejarah(History) books portraying the slogan of “Takkan Melayu Hilang di Dunia Ini” which meant “Malay won’t be missing from this world”. Well, this got me to searching the net. Why? Well, the name Hang Tuah basically aroused me. Imagine if we go back to history, I am sure we heard of Princess Hang Li Poh who came all the way from China to Malacca. Now notice the name HANG. Hmm… bear any significance.
Another thing is after the year 1999, there seems to be no more Hang Tuah history in the history text books. Wonder why that happens? Weird, he’s supposed to be in the history but why is he taken out? Isn’t he a Malaysian? Now what brought upon this exclusion.
Is Hang Tuah’s Origin Chinese?
Funny thing I had a thought is is Hang Tuah really spelt as Hang Tuah or ex: Hang Too Ah, or any other alike sound.
One post regarding Hang Tuah can be viewed HERE. It explains many facts. One point they did touch was the DNA extracted out from the “Hangs” were found to be Chinese (Maybe someone could tell me if it’s true). Interesting yeah?? Well facts they were, but will we ever wonder why it was taken out from school history text books. So is this the real Hang Tuah’s origin story?
Here’s my point that I want to emphasize.
1. Why is the study of Hang Tuah taken out from history text books?
2. Why is the original post in the link posted taken out? (to protect….)
3. What is the significance of Hang Tuah in Malaysia’s history?
4. Why the usage of “Takkan Melayu hilang di Dunia ini?” (How can the Malays disappear from this world?) and is it taken out of context with their own suitable interpretation.
5. Even if Hang Tuah’s a different race altogether, what significance does it do to our history text books?
Links for Reference
a. The Malacca travel guide Old Link http://www.journeymart.com/DExplorer/AsiaSE/Malaysia/Mallaca/default.asp
b. http://www.malaysia.net/node/993 Reason Why in Sejarah of Malaysia Since Year 1999…
Even after many premonitions, there seems to be the mystery of Hang Tuah/Hang Too Ah’s origins. But let’s say if he’s really the race that most people claimed he is, why the sudden exclusion from History Books. Even up till now, my mind wonders all about Hang Tuah’s origin. How about yours?
Updates From the Future
Dated May 7th 2020
Just some thoughts after looking back at the old post and decided to update them.
Is Hang Li Poh a princess?
Hang Li Poh which was mentioned as a princess from China was sent to Malacca as a way to present for the Sultan at that time. It was very common to have a political ties with another country by presenting a princess from another empire as a gift to another empire for marriage back then.
Another surprising fact, Hang Li Poh might not even be a princess as there are no records in the history regarding this name. Heck, the name Hang Li Poh might not even be right. It could be the name given after coming to Malacca or rather insinuated into the society in Malacca.
History Books at Present Still Omitted Hang Tuah
There are also many other studies that by then might not be true, but the main concern up till now is the expulsion of Hang Tuah from the History Books which still do up till now. As mentioned, a cover up for Hang Tuah’s origin story or just to stop people from discussing about Hang Tuah?
The Powers of Taming Sari
As mentioned, Hang Tuah is a legend, he can be real but there are many extra descriptions of his strength that are simply out of this world. The powers of the Taming Sari, his weapon’s name, is described as powerful as the Excalibur or maybe more powerful.
Some depictions mentioned that it could fly and there are many more myths. Up till now it is still a legend and the weapon (the ‘keris’) is still being studied. I have also written an article on the Taming Sari.
nonsense la…u think hang tuah is chinese blood huh…suxxx..hang tuah is MALAY….MALAY IS MALAY
Could be? May be? why concerned so much?
Hang Tuah – Hang Too Ah
Hang Jebat – Hang Ghee Wat
Hang Kasturi – Hang Kah Too Ree
Hang Lekiu – Hang Lee Kiew
Hang Lekir _ Hang Lee Khek
Warrior and bodyguards of Hang Li Poh
whatever it is we have accepted it as malay warrior. They are also lot of javanese been dramatised as malay legend and Siamese and Indian also been malaynised. Even it you study history malay also originated from Yunan China.
woi anjing!
Adapun dalam Kerajaan Melayu Melaka, Gelaran “Hang”, “Makhdum”, “Khauja” dan “Maulana” adalah bagi darjah kebesaran Tertinggi yang diAnugerahi oleh Sultan Melaka bagi Kerajaan Adat Temenggung yang setaraf dengan darjah “Tun”
ko pergi la buka sejarah lama Melayu dlu sblum nk komen!!!!!!!
kalau ikut logik kau, hang nadim pun cina la??!! hang mahmud pun cina la??!!!
ko jgn cuba nk rosakkan sejarah Melayu lah cina lahanat!!!!!!!!!
It all comes down to what does Malay, Chinese or Indian race mean. What is race? how are we different? We are all biologically of ths same species and race is normally defined “A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics” But if you look at Malaysia’s history everything is blended. Persian traders, Indian & Chinese, Indonesian they all came to Malaysia and look around you don’t you see these genetic traces in the faces around you? Also I read that the Sultan of Johor in the 18th century had a Romanian wife,but so what if our background is all mixed anyway, mathematically as a species we had to originate from a similar family so if you go back far enough in time our ancestors were quite close!(this is all theory anyway) But what I’m trying to say is we should be proud of our differences and our culture but not to the extent we seclude ourselves from each other completely. We are all homo sapiens…and biologically the more different two mates are genetically the stronger the offspring so nature wants us to blend! Well that’s my rant 🙂
malayguy..how u would u knoe if hang tuah is a malay. u make no sense. being a chinese is not “SUXXXX” either.
becoz he is malay guy lor,hang tu-ah is their mistery hero ma,they wont go n check the truth.
ya,y so rude…chinese the best…i think u r using a lot of chinese product now a day from china but r we
using malay product beside proton car(technology from mitsubishi japan also and claim as buatan malaysia..haha)
look a this weside then u will understand
http://malaysianatheist.blogspot.com/2006/11/is-hang-tuah-chinese-part-1_20.html
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/archive/index.php/t-5986.html
Whether Hang Too Ah or Hang Tuah is ain’t important. They are just human being like us. Why should there be a question on the race? He is just a heroic/ legend of the past and no question should be raise!! Such thinking of you guys are degrading to your ownself.
We are Malaysian, whether we are chinese, indian or malays, we are not the origin to this Land we called Malaysia today. This will create dis-unity to our own country. The origin to this Land are the Aborigines.
We are just settlers backdated perhaps 700 years back. So, everyone who wanted comment whether Hang Tuah or Hang Too Ah should think deep before commenting on this.
Damn!!!!
It was an eye-opening experience for me, triggered by Malaysia’s latest hit movie ‘Puteri Gunung Ledang, to learn that the legendary warrior Hang Tuah, famed for his unrivalled loyalty, was originally known as Daeng Mempawah from the Tanah Bugis, famed for Silat Seni Gayong, of Makassar, brought to Melaka by Seri Bija Pikrama as a gift from Raja Goa to Sultan Mansur Syah. Perhaps it is the Bugis trademark for loyalty was that which led Hang Tuah to the equally infamous duel of honor leading to the death of his best friend Hang Jebat.
Hence,it could just be that Hang Tuah was a Bugis with chinese heritage traces back to the sons of the 500covoys that came back with sultan for all we know.We never know.
Wht the heck man..Malaysian la..No me,u,or i wan lah..it’s we n us mah..People are prejudice..It’s not abt how we look or where we came from,it’s abt our love for M’sia.I knw we all have it in our souls.Cmon lah.Stop being prejudice!!..It stops M’sia from being a better place to live.So..PEACE..No more Malays..No more Chinese..No more..Indians..No more nothing.It’s Malaysians.
Aiya fren, HangTuah, Chinese or Malay mou lan tiu la …… he is dead anyway. Actually in Malaysia hor, i think although we r separated by racen unequavalent in Economy distribution but i see Malay Chinese & Indian gets along really fine la, especially in kampung on also in City, the really fucktup one is the fuckin government, always reminding the citizen to separate ourself, to be suspicious of each other, hey we r good buddies here man, if gov wanna fight, fight urself la, why wanna split us good buddies between Malay Chinese & Indian friends ?
cina beng is right. this ist just crap ppl pull for their divide and rule tactics! i dont think hang tuah really even existed. and its true, the govt is always reminding citzens to be disunited!
Major sources cite
The Federal Association of Arc & Research of Michigan, USA
for discovery and justification of this article ( its everywhere on blogs)
but
The Federal Association of Arc & Research of Michigan, USA ? ?
If it exists, the homepage is going to turn up on google. I mean really.
Ironically, the only things that DO come up are other blogs with this Tuah is a Chinese article.
Anyways F it lah, malay or chinese, he did protect a malay sultan.
And we still have an independent country.
malay chinese indian kadazan mat saleh iban come on get along la wei
wat’s all tis merepek? if u want to know truth,wait till u’r older enough to die and after u have die,go to heaven and migrate to malaysia heaven’ then there will u meet hang tuah or wat so ever…and then u ask….remember softly use sultan’s language lyke banginda all tat….K?
hey, shouldnt hang tuah or whoever is up in heaven has reincarnait(i dunno how its spelled) back into the world we all live in now????(just joking) :-}
putting a link to my blog on the same topic
Hang Tuah has been the hero, for centuries, in poems, stories, classical prose, etc. Yes, the next question, Why is he removed from the text book? Probably he was just a fictional character, or secondly, his origin is doubtful. A Chinese or a Malay?
Most eastern races have a surname, INFRONT. The Hang brothers, all have a common name, a surname, an Eastern surname. Does that means he is a Chinese?
However, it’s inevitable to say that, the locals, in some sort, have “surnames” like the Dang, Wan, etc. Probably Hang is one of them. Who knows?
One thing is sure, the tomb of the great Hang Tuah, has not been found yet. With modern technologies spilling in, it’s pretty doubtful to say that we can’t find the tomb of the nation’s hero. It leads us to perhaps only one conclusion, is he a fictional character? Made up by the old folks to be told as stories to the young ones for motivation etc?
At the end, the answer resolves to one thing, we can’t conclude his origin or his existence in words. Practically, yes.
The malay race is technically from not just Malaysia but from other countries too eg phillapines, thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia etc that is why some physical features are quite similar except for the difference in Language.
Nowadays due to the invasion from china…most sterotypes are evident.
Bottomline is….asians are asians
If u guys keep searching Hang Tuah in Malaysia, fat hope! Hang Tuah dissapearance simply bec he migrated to Singapore looking for hang jebat son after his dissappointed luv wth the princess of majapahit. Singapore was attack by majapahit upon hang tuah request after hang nadim was killed by the sultan.Remember the story ‘Singapura di landa todak’….and hang nadim is the smart kid who told the sultan to plant banana tree trunk along the shores instead of using the poor citizens as fence against the ‘todak'(sword fish). Maja[ahit kingdom has got nothing to do wth hang nadim but has political connection wth hang tuah….Very long story lah guys…perhaps u malaysian guys shud call me to give a history lecture in malay classic history…
The HANGs warriors came from china. They are muslim in china travel along with hang li po as bodyguards. Islam spread to china thru the silk road and chinese muslims brought Islam religion to malaysia,indonesia & singapore. The first state to embrace islam is Malacca, the trade hub and melting pots of all races. The silat is originated from China and the Arabs and also tribes in the Malay Archipelego. That is why The Hangs warrios are great fighters…its is like 3skills into 1 body
as much as i want hang tuah to be real, or maybe Malay, i can’t help but to wonder.. did he really exist? i mean, there are so many conflicts and contradictions in history books, like Sejarah Melayu (believed to be written in 1537) and Silalatus Salatin (because i practise silat and many stuff about silat can be faound here)..
i can’t believe i wasted two months reading those two just to find out about Hang Tuah..
Well.. there’s this one Book that has been proved by historians had never been changed since It was first written.. i better read that One..
Kepada semua yang terlibat memberi komen, anda memang bijak dan patut di beri penghargaan kerana mengajar
dan memberi tunjuk ajar kepada semua, isu hang tuah berbangsa melayu atau cina atau bugis atau atau sebagainya adalah untuk memenuhi keperluan individu tertentu. Berkenaan panggilan “hang” di awalan nama Hang Tuah , Di kedah dan Perak mejoriti masyarakat melayu disana memanggil seseorang dengan panggilan Hang. Contoh “Hang pi mana” menunjukkan panggilan kepada seseorang. Terlalu banyak kajian perlu dijalankan untuk hanya mentafsirkan panggilan Hang. Yang pasti dari mana perkataan ini berasal??? Kalau Hang Tuah berbangsa Cina kenapa Bapanya bernama Hang Mahmud dan ibunya Dang Merdu… Anda semua memang bijak tetapi tidak mengkaji kenapa raja dipanggil tuanku, gelaran “Patik”, Lakab atau gelaran memang popular suatu masa dahulu, dimana ia menunjukkan status seorang “Raja” atau “pembesar” atau “orang biasa/rakyat asal” ataupun “org yang merantau” . Didalam sejarah asal melayu , hang tuah terkadang tidak dipanggil Hang tuah,tetapi dipanggil “Kiyai Tuah” atau dipanggil “Tuah” sahaja. Kerana Panggilan ” Hang ” itu ialah Gelaran semata-mata dan bukan nama. Ada juga dipanggil ” Tun Tuah” . Yang pastinya orang melayu hanya akan mengakui bangsa melayu sebagai pemilik nama “Tuah” ini. Perkataan nama ” Tuah” juga adalah bertuah bagi pemilik nama itu. Apa yang saya ingin beritahu disini, tidak mungkin Raja melayu akan melantik Pembesarnya dari kalangan bukan berbangsa melayu. ini kerana kedaulatan raja melayu itu sendiri. Di dalam adat-adat istana , kesemuanya dipegang oleh orang melayu. Tidak mungkin akan dilantik Bendahara,temenggung,laksamana, hatta pengawal istana sekalipun berbangsa melayu. Lihat dan kaji dengan teliti. Jangan ikut sedap mulut sahaja.
Kalau anda semua hendak tahu, Si Laksamana Tun Tuah ini sebenarnya Berketurunan Bugis, Dia juga adalah seorang Waliullah yang mempunyai Karamat atau Rijalulghaib. Dia telah mati , tetapi jasadnya dighaibkan . Itu urusan tuhan, kita tidak perlu tanya kenapa ia dighaibkan. Ulama-ulama islam di mesir ada menyebut , Tuah adalah wali sezaman, atau Wali kutub. Diutuskan seorang pada satu abad. Tuah juga 2 kali bertemu Nabi Khaidir , Pertama ketika diberi cembul air dan kedua ketika dia hendak ditanam hidup2. Hanya Manusia terpilih sahaja yang layak bertemu Nabi. Lagi kata Ulama-ulama ini , ketika perhimpunan Wali di bukit Kaf, Tuah dan Jebat ada bersama Wali-wali yang lain. Jadi sendiri fikirlah, siapa sebenarnya Tuah dan Jebat ini. Bukan sebarangan orang, tetapi mempunyai keramat yang tidak mampu dihuraikan oleh akal manusia. Yang pastinya kita orang islam harus berbangga dengan Laksamana Tun Tuah yang Hebat dan Termasyhur .
Berkenaan keris Taming Sari, memang benar pada sultan perak sekarang ialah keris Taming sari. Cerita tentang Tamingsari di buang tuah kedalam sungai mau pun laut adalah rekaan orang melayu dahulu, atas alasan orang-orang portugis memburu tuah dan kerisnya, kerana pergaduhan tuah dan portugis dihadapan maharaja cina telah menyimpan dendam pada portugis untuk memburu tuah dan kerisnya.
Selepas tuah menghantar raja dan pembesar lainnya ke Perak, keris tamingsari diserahkan kepada raja, tuah kemudian kembali kemelaka untuk menyelamatkan org melayu disana. Tetapi kerana usia yang sudah lanjut dan kekuatan yang semakin berkurangan, kapal beliau semasa bertembur dgn portugis telah di bedil dgn meriam portugis, pecah lalu karam. Tuah mengundur diri dan menyelamatkan apa yng termampu. dia kemudian beramal di bukit jugra mendalami ilmu tarikat dan berakhirlah kisahnya.
Apa yg ingin saya beritahu disini, kewujudan cerita keris tamingsari dicampak ke sungai duyung memang ada benarnya, tetapi keris itu tidak dicampak kedalam sungai duyung, cuma cerita sahaja. Ini adalah helah untuk kelirukan orang-orang portugis dari terus memburu Tamingsari. Hatta dibuat helah sekalipun , ada juga musuh dalam selimut yang bersekongkol dgn portugis ini memberitahu keris itu berada pada sultan di perak, mereka org2 portugis terus memburu, dan tamingsari disembunyikan ditempat tertentu. Sultan pula terpaksa melarikan diri kerana khuatir ditangkap portugis. Begitulah ceritanya.
Kaji tentang keris, nescaya anda akan tahu apa khasiatnya. Dapatkan buku Khasiat-khasiat keris dan senjata lama dari PSPDKK (Persatuan Seni Purba Dan Kraftangan Kelantan) . Melalui Bentuk luk keris / pamur dan sebagainya kita dapat mengenali status asal pemilik keris itu dahulunya. Dan dari mana asalnya. Sila Hubungi En Alwi di nombor 0199589119 selaku Presiden PSPDKK untuk mendapatkan Buku Khasiat Keris dan senjata lama. Harga Cuma RM 250 sebuah. Belajar melalui buku dan panduan tertentu adalah lebih baik dari mendengar cerita orang yang kadang-kadang banyak temberang dari yang benar. Betul tak apa yang saya cakap???
My 2 cents worth:
Hang Tuah was taken out of the history books likely cos there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove that he really existed. Unlike the case with Tun Perak, who was widely acknowledged n documented as the commander who led the expansion of Melaka into a regional military power under the reign of Sultan Mansur Shah.
The Chinese Hang Tuah (i.e. Hang Too Ah) hypothesis is just what it is, a hypothesis first proposed by Prof. Khoo Khay Kim of UM’s history faculty about 15 years ago. No more, no less.
But it seems that this hypothesis has picked up some momentum (mostly spin) of its own among some Chinese, for understandable reasons, e.g. to score some political points. So much so that now we even hear it’s been spinned up to another level with talk of Hang Tuah’s DNA proving Chinese ancestry.
Now that has to be complete bollocks, cos ya can’t get DNA without first obtaining the cells from a body or parts of body tissue, including blood, bone or hair. If ya can’t even find Hang Tuah’s proven remains, how could ya get his DNA? Stupid.
Another hypothesis, more plausible, is that he was just an imaginary hero created by whoever created him, with the original idea inspired by the legend of Arjuna (from the Mahabhrata) n his 4 brothers of the Pandava clan, who went to war against their cousins from the Kaurava clan (i.e. battle of Kurukshetra). The Arjuna legend was then simplified into a story involving 5 very close friends, adapted to fit into Malay culture n given a Melakan flavour.
Shades of Tun Perak, Gajah Mada, n Parameswara himself was then thrown in into the overall makeup of Hang Tuah’s character. N then, voila! You now have a Malay superhero.
the fact is Laksamana Cheng Ho, muslim chinese introduced Islam to nusantara. Then Parameswara visited China to tie relationship and converted to Islam. there is high possibility that Hang Tuah and friends were also muslim chinese and have close tie with kesultanan islam melaka. we have to face the reality that we have been brainwashed by ‘penjajah’ for 600 years that we are not told the true history. Please take your time, make research who is Laksamana@admiral cheng ho@zheng he, link between turki uthmaniyah, acheh and malacca, islam in china, the decline of muslim chinese influence during colony and so on.
“takkan melayu hilang di dunia” – my opinion, here hang tuah was referring to “islam”.
Assalamualaikum , hi n hello…. well im a malay n a muslim to. for me a… the fact is still the fact… if the fact is hang tuah is malay so is malay a….if chinese so chinese a………in muslim we all thought that all of the human being in this small round little so called world is came from one person is NABI ADAM and that what make we all should be unite. sooooo…..nomatter what ur race if ur are muslim we are brothers bro……..so bangla..chinese..PATI..malay and what ever race ur are the fact is we are HUMAN and have many similarities in many ways.. look at ur self is the samething we all do and feel broo…… so fact is human is HUMAN not homo sapien we are not a spicies…….we are the ruler in this place called planet dude!!!!! so act like one kay……… i dont see any not human in this column da…… so fact is still the fact………
fact is im human and human in islam is khalif in this planet with many good facto reason why we are…. so luv u all human…….
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Hang Tuah bukan nama sebenarnya,beliau mempunyai nama aslinya yang rahsia buat kami memberitahu anda anda semua dan beliau adalah Bangsa Melayu Bugis dari wilayah Riau.
Memang selama ini kita orang Melayu telah diperbodoh-bodohkan oleh para sejarahwan tentang makam Hang Tuah yang diMelaka.Itu adalah kuil Hindu dan rekayasa sematamata.
Kami cabar semua ahli scientists, archaeologist dan para sejarahwan untuk membuktikan dimanakah terletaknya MAKAM HANG TUAH sebenarnya.Jikalau para ilmuan semua tidak dapat buktikan kedudukannya,saya minta lah sangat janganlah Tuan Tuan semua perbodoh-bodohkan lagi orang Melayu.
Para scientists, archaeologist dan para sejarahwan
dari United State, United Kingdom, Germany, Canada, Yemen & Russia yang dinyatakan oleh John Chow tentang penemuan DNA Hang Hang tersebut dari Cina adalah pembohongan dan ada unsur Politik Ketuanan sematamata.Mereka tidak dapat menemukan MAKAM HANG TUAH sebenarnya jadi bagaimana hendak dapatkan tulang tulangnya untuk dibuat kajian dan bukti?
Menurut orang tua tua kami dahulu,dengan menyebut nama rahsianya;beliau adalah Panglima terbilang yang pernah berikhmat dengan keSultanan Melaka dahulu dan pulang kenegeri asalnya untuk menghilangkan rasa sedih dan kecewanya setelah kematian sahabatnya.
Nah itu hanya sedikit saja dapat saya terangkan cukup disitu.Para sejarahwan mencatatkan,Hang Tuah ghaib setelah kematian Hang Jebat.Memang beliau ghaib,tetapi bukan tiada kuburnya.
Orang dulu dulu sememangnya suka menghilangkan diri dari satu tempat ketempat yang lain tanpa diketahui oleh orang lain.Hang Tuah memang pulang ketempat asalnya.
Hang Jebat tidak pernah mati ditangan Hang Tuah mahupun Sultan.Mana mungkin dua saudara yang sudah berbai’ah berbunuhan sesama sendiri.Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat adalah Wali Allah.Hang tuah telah mengatur strategi dalam melaksanakan perintah sultan dalam masa yang sama tidak membunuh Hang Jebat.Mereka berdua hanya meng’kelabu’kan mata sultan dan rakyat.Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat menghaibkan diri bertujuan tidak mahu peristiwa tersebut diketahui Sultan dan Rakyat.Mereka menukar identiti mereka dan berhijrah ke utara untuk meneruskan misi dakwah mereka.
Kita dapat tahu tentang pengkajian dan penemuan tulang tulang Hang Hang tersebut oleh orang asing sama ada benar atau tidak.Sedangkan Makam Hang Tuah berada di daerah Riau.Ini yang saya nak ketengahkan sebab saya sudah ketempatnya.
Siapa saja boleh buat akuan dan penulisan mengenai penemuan tulang tulang tersebut sebab kerajaan Malaysia telah menghentikan kurikulum disekolah.Ini lah peluang mereka!
Sebenarnya saya dan kami dilarang untuk memberi butir butir terperinci cukup dengan clue clue yang telah saya ajukan.
Tentang Keris Taming Sari,saya ada dengar ianya berada ditangan Sultan Perak.Tapi tak boleh saya nyatakan benar atau tidak,rahsia but kami.
aiyah..susah2 saja fikir..actually, we all mix blood la..we’re asian dats y la got chinese dna, but actually we came from the same root..dun u wanna knw where chinese came from?maybe all of us is from cambodia..some people said we’re from india..ok..im making myself confused..thanks for the info!
Saya rasa sama ada Hang Tuah ini berbangsa Cina atau Melayu pada masa ini tidak lagi penting kerana ini hanya membuka satu peluang bagi orang orang yang hanya mementingkan kepentingan diri sendiri ataupun ingin membangkitkan isu isu perkauman yang sememangnya sensitif.. dan bakal membangkitkan kemarahan antara kaum kaum yg ada di Malaysia..
Tidak cukup kah dengan apa yang ada di Negara kita berbanding dengan negara lain?yang mana rakyatnya yang berbilang kaum dapat hidup dalam susana yang aman dengan toleransi yang sememangnya patut dibanggakan setakat ini?
Setelah melihat beberapa blog blog dan pendapat berkenaan dengan isu ini saya tidak dapat melihat apakah manfaat yang boleh kita dapat dari isu ini? Apa yang begitu ketara sekali hanyalah satu isu perkauman yang bakal menjejaskan keamanan yang kita semua berkerja keras untuk di nikmati semua sebabkan toleransi anatara kaum yang ada di Malaysia ini
Saya percaya meskipun sememangnya dengan pandangan yang lebih realistik memang benar setiap orang / kaum memang akan terasa tidak berpuas hati dengan apa yang mereka ada sekarang disebabkan situasi tertentu tetapi saya masih mengharapkan semua yang membaca pendapat ini akan membuka minda mereka dengan lebih luas dan cuba melihat “the bigger picture” or work for “the common good of all..”
Komen bagi Malayguy who seemed to have disappeared after that comment..please grow up..
as’kum zack56…
plez reply kt mail sy ape yg awk postkan pd 150808.ade bende yang nk ditanye.tq
Malay people origins from china. So no wonder if DNA of Hang Tuah is chinese blood. But, Malay is Malay. Using malay words. So Hang Tuah is malay.Okay? Malay is just a race, but we come from same place with our ancestor.
adakah orang cina pandai bersilat atau kung fu?
orang cina guna keris?????
hang tuah bersilat, tapi tidak belajar kung fu, hang tuah guna keris taming sari yg diperbuat dari jawa.bukan guna pedang panjang. Orang melayu taat pada sultan. hang tuah taat pada rajanya. Tetapi, di negara china sebelum ini, mereka menggulingkan kerajaannya sendiri. adakah ini taat????
fikirkan lah
It was taken out from text probably it lacks concrete evidence. History never lie. Hang Tuah was a great warrior during Majapahit era. Also said this happen during the war with Portugis. Majapahit… Portugis… Hmmm. The old Javanese manuscript and history did not mentioned any name of Taming Sari. Not even the Portugis. No matter what’s the story, the hearsay, the ethnic or whatever, the interesting piece is that it does blow the fire of spirit in oneself. The spirit to fight, the spirit to live, the spirit of being loyal.
doggy…well said..tq…
actually we have forgotten our priorities as malaysian and started being an alien to our country n influence those around us…we should be thankful to our country!!!it is bcoz of M’sia we r living peacefully with our frens and families.unlike other countries,they have 2 live with fear of tomoro…be thankfull 2 our country ad stop being racist…we are living under one roof…the roof called the earth!!!let us live as brothers and sisters…please dont bring up race issues tat could harm the unity of our country….please…
tq!!!
Dari komen-komen yang dibuat banyak percanggahan fakta. Siapa Tuah, hidup bila, meninggal bila, tinggal dimana dan sebagainya. Ada yang kata tuah hidup dari zaman Sultan Melaka, Portugis dan Belanda. Jadi Tuah berusia ratusan tahun baru meninggal. Dan bangsa tuah ini terus menjadi topik. Saya fikir lebih baik tak usah pening kepala fikir pasal bangsa dan siapa Tuah ini. Cukup kalau kita tahu yang dia hidup zaman Sultan Melaka dan meninggal sebelum kedatangan Portugis sekitar (1496). Itu yang benar.
Hang tuah tidak menghilangkan diri tetapi membawa diri jauh dari Raja sebelum kedatangan portugis. Ada kajian mengatakan hang tuah telah pergi ke GOA India, dan menderhaka kepada sultan melalui lain negara dengan membocorkan rahsia ketenteraan negeri melaka kepada pihak portugis, setelah itu portugis menyerang Melaka dan telah berjaya menawan melaka tetapi peperangan sebelum ini portugis telah beberapa kali kalah, selepas mendapat rahsia dari hang tuah mengenai ketenteraan melaka dan senjata yang uzur portugis menang. itu sebab tak berkubur di Malaysia.
Mimpi Hang Tuah bercakap padaku
Bertapa merindu Puspa kasihnya
Tinggalkan gunong, pulang ke ibu
Tidak disangka, Amok membara
Mimpi HangTuah bercakap padaku
Kesalnya dia membunuh Jebat.
Jiwa sengsara, darah membeku
Arahan Raja, otak yang singkat
Mimpi Hang Tuah, bercakap padaku
Menipu Tun Tijah, larikan dia
Manja pujukan, bak buluh perindu
Kesal & kejam, n’tuk Raja Melaka
Mimpi Hang Tuah bercakap padaku
Bodohnya dia ke Gunung Ledang
Syarat merungsingkan, untuk Tuanku
Laksmana Raja, maruah hulu-balang.
Salam, ada waris pernah bercerita, yang menjadi rahsia biarlah rahsia selama-lama takut membuka aib pula. Biarlah kita mengingat yang baik sahaja tentang si Tuah,sebelum mati dah tobat nasuha.Melarikan diri untuk berkhalwat kepada Allah.Ada yang bercerita Tuah di Tanjung Tuan , di Bukit Makam mungkin bermunajat dan memohon keampunan dari ampunya keturunan dan dosa-dosa lampau. Semoga Allah menempatkan rohnya ditempat orang-yang beriman,AL FATIHAH.
tolong mengkaji dengan lebih dalam lagi tentang zaman melayu terdahulu.
nama nama pendekar zaman dlu slalu bermula dgn “hang”
contoh :
a. Hang Jebat
b. Hang Kasturi
c. Hang Lekir
d. Hang Lekiu
e. Hang Ali
f. Hang Iskandar
g. Hang Hassan
h. Hang Hussin
hang Mahmud –> ayah kepada hang tuah
and… dekat pining n kedah rasa nye ramai lagi “hang”.
if hang tuah is cina… kenapa die mengguna kan keris? x guna kan kayu mcm bruce lee?
or tombak? or pedang?
Think think… Fikir fikir, the legendary brotherhood of the Hangs in Malacca coincide with historical visit by Admiral Zheng He from China. Books are written and documentaries are telecasted to depict existing of the world wide discovery by this person and his loyal captains. None mentioned at all the existence of the Hangs and their gallantry epic. Most probably the legend sprung after the Chinese fleet left Malacca shore forever. Anyway, think think, how Islam spread to South east Asia? Could it be the Chinese Fleet brought back muslim teachings from middle east or North Africa when they voyage home? At that time, early 1400s, no Asia and Africa nations, except China, have the technical will power and daring sailors with seagoing vessels to cross thousands kilometers of vast ocean. Unfortunately, almost all records meticulously compiled by Admiral Zheng He’s travelling biographer were destroyed. We should relentlessly urge the authorities to pursue in solving the Hang myth once and for all. Look at the Egypt with their pharoahs and pyramids, Chinese with their chaotic of succession Dynastic rules, Italy with their Roman empire and its ruins or Greeks with their mythical temples, and until now their archaeologists still ponder on. The historic treasure imbedded in Malaysia lies on few clueless past, like the legend of the Hang brotherhood. If local or foreign archaeologists, historians, scientists and geneticists proved otherwise, then as citizen of Malaysian, we should be bold enough to accept truth, and adapt. And hey, I yet to see any complete non-fictional documentary to be release related entirely on the legendary Hang brotherhood, or it will always be fabled malay movies.
no one should give a fuck.hang tuah is a precious and treasured history of malaysia…who gives a damn what race he was?
the malay race is mostly a mix of many other races too probably.plus the cultures are heavily influenced by other races.im a mix of punjabi maliali chinese and prob some malay(from the nyonya side).most people would say i look preety malay.hahaha. the point is, cant we all get along..forget about the origins and races.lets start something new…lets all be malaysians!
ps. all yall should inter marry..hahahaha…no more denoting urselves as a certain race…just kidding…
btw…legend has it that the saint bodidharma spread the origins of martial arts round the world…he was frm kerala btw… so everyone practicing martial arts is kinda doing something indian…hahahaha…another joke btw…Kalarippayattu
look it up
setelah 4tahun dari thread yang terakhir. (kajian tahun 26 November 2015) beserta bukti keris daripada kerajaan Jepun
Penyelidikan terbaharu oleh Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM) mengenai Hang Tuah menunjukkan jejak terakhir pahlawan Melayu itu berakhir di Temasik (kini Singapura) pada tahun 1511 ketika berusia 80 tahun.
Bagaimanapun, pahlawan itu mungkin berpindah ke Riau, Indonesia selepas itu, sebelum mengakhiri hayatnya di Palembang, disokong dakwaan penduduk di situ yang menemui kuburnya.
Penemuan itu menimbulkan kemungkinan kubur Hang Tuah yang selama ini didakwa di Tanjung Keling, Melaka mungkin hanya makam peringatannya.
Penyelidikan itu juga mengenal pasti Hang Tuah dilahirkan pada tahun 1431 dan mengesahkan kewujudannya melalui kajian empirikal yang pertama kali menggunakan sumber dan artifak luar negara, berbanding kajian sebelum ini berasaskan nukilan tempatan seperti Hikayat Hang Tuah.
Pensyarah Kanan Fakulti Bahasa Moden dan Komunikasi, Universiti Putra Malaysia (UPM), Profesor Emeritus Dr Hashim Musa, yang mengetuai penyelidikan itu bagaimanapun berkata, penemuan kubur perlu dibuktikan melalui ujian asid deoksiribonukleik (DNA) keluarga Hang Tuah dengan tulang dari kubur berkenaan.
Kajian turut menemukan bukti Hang Tuah pernah menjejakkan kaki ke Okinawa, Jepun selain kehebatan dan kekuatan Laksamana Melaka itu digeruni beberapa pihak, termasuk penakluk dari Portugal, Alfonso De Albuquerque.
“Satu catatan peribadi pelayar itu menyatakan ketika menakluk Melaka pada tahun 1511, seorang laksamana lelaki berusia 80 tahun dengan reputasi hebat serta berpengetahuan berhijrah ke Singapura selepas kejatuhan Melaka.
“Satu lagi catatan apotekari (ahli perubatan) Portugis yang berada di Melaka ketika itu, Tome Pires, menyatakan ketika Siam menyerang Melaka, Sultan Mansur Shah menghantar seorang laksamana dan berjaya menumpaskan 200 tentera Siam secara berseorangan.
“Walaupun catatan itu tidak menyebut nama Hang Tuah, berdasarkan nama Sultan yang memerintah Melaka ketika itu membuktikan pahlawan Melayu itulah yang dimaksudkan,” katanya.
Beliau berkata demikian selepas pelancaran hasil penyelidikannya bersama Pensyarah Kanan Fakulti Bahasa Moden dan Komunikasi UPM, Dr Rohaidah Kamaruddin melalui buku Hang Tuah: Catatan Okinawa, di sini, hari ini.
Hashim berkata, pihaknya ke Okinawa bulan lalu bagi meneliti dan mengkaji sebilah keris luk sembilan yang ditemui pada tahun 2002 di Kuil Engakuji, dalam daerah itu.
Pasukannya turut menemui dokumen rasmi 19 surat Empayar Ryukyu ‘Rekidai Hoan’ berkaitan perutusan antara kerajaan Kesultanan Melayu Melaka dan kerajaan di bawah jajahan China ketika itu. Tiga surat dalam dokumen berkenaan ditulis sendiri oleh Hang Tuah.
Hang Tuah ke Ryukyu (sekarang Okinawa) selama beberapa minggu bagi pihak Sultan Melaka untuk menjalin hubungan diplomatik selain berniaga.
Surat Hang Tuah itu tertulis senarai hadiah yang dibawa bersamanya, termasuk keris berluk sembilan.
takkan la Tun Tuah Agungkan Melayu berbanding Cina “Takkan Melayu Hilang Di Dunia” dan xkan pula org yang diclaim cina ini pandai ber-keris bukannya kayu,pedang atau tekpie. cukup-cukuplah nak merendahkan orang Melayu.